Comments on: Dave Winer on Silicon Valley, and a Rant on California Education Funding http://newestindustry.org/2005/03/28/dave-winer-on-silicon-valley-and-a-rant-on-california-education-funding/ Web Performance, Branding, and Social Media Sat, 06 Mar 2010 13:50:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Essay Reviewer http://newestindustry.org/2005/03/28/dave-winer-on-silicon-valley-and-a-rant-on-california-education-funding/comment-page-1/#comment-1045 Essay Reviewer Thu, 06 Nov 2008 01:15:30 +0000 http://crazycanuck.wordpress.com/2005/03/28/dave-winer-on-silicon-valley-and-a-rant-on-california-education-funding/#comment-1045 not malnourished and dying, system of non-education in California that resulted from one of the greatest breeders of inequity in the modern world not malnourished and dying, system of non-education in California that resulted from one of the greatest breeders of inequity in the modern world

]]> By: Sortroom.net http://newestindustry.org/2005/03/28/dave-winer-on-silicon-valley-and-a-rant-on-california-education-funding/comment-page-1/#comment-647 Sortroom.net Tue, 29 Mar 2005 15:16:04 +0000 http://crazycanuck.wordpress.com/2005/03/28/dave-winer-on-silicon-valley-and-a-rant-on-california-education-funding/#comment-647 <strong>Tax and schools: the Proposition 13 way</strong><br/>Citing the inequity of the property taxes he pays on his homes in Omaha, Neb., and Laguna Beach, Buffett said the California cap on property taxes imposed by Prop. 13 "makes no sense."<br/><br><br/><br>Prop. 13 passed 25 years ago with 65 percent of the vote, and ... Tax and schools: the Proposition 13 way
Citing the inequity of the property taxes he pays on his homes in Omaha, Neb., and Laguna Beach, Buffett said the California cap on property taxes imposed by Prop. 13 “makes no sense.”

Prop. 13 passed 25 years ago with 65 percent of the vote, and …

]]> By: Sortroom.net http://newestindustry.org/2005/03/28/dave-winer-on-silicon-valley-and-a-rant-on-california-education-funding/comment-page-1/#comment-253 Sortroom.net Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:16:04 +0000 http://crazycanuck.wordpress.com/2005/03/28/dave-winer-on-silicon-valley-and-a-rant-on-california-education-funding/#comment-253 <strong>Tax and schools: the Proposition 13 way</strong><br />Citing the inequity of the property taxes he pays on his homes in Omaha, Neb., and Laguna Beach, Buffett said the California cap on property taxes imposed by Prop. 13 "makes no sense."<br /> <br /> Prop. 13 passed 25 years ago with 65 percent of the vote, and ... Tax and schools: the Proposition 13 way
Citing the inequity of the property taxes he pays on his homes in Omaha, Neb., and Laguna Beach, Buffett said the California cap on property taxes imposed by Prop. 13 “makes no sense.”

Prop. 13 passed 25 years ago with 65 percent of the vote, and …

]]> By: Eddie Dickey http://newestindustry.org/2005/03/28/dave-winer-on-silicon-valley-and-a-rant-on-california-education-funding/comment-page-1/#comment-646 Eddie Dickey Tue, 29 Mar 2005 08:23:11 +0000 http://crazycanuck.wordpress.com/2005/03/28/dave-winer-on-silicon-valley-and-a-rant-on-california-education-funding/#comment-646 We bought a home in Marin County 2 years ago (assesed value went from about 86K to 608K when property changed hands!). I agree with the comments above. Except that I think 'No Child Left Behind' throws a big nation-wide wrench into education where funding is tied to test scores. Our local school district is all about the test scores. My daughter is in Kindergarten and 'hates homework' already. And so I think that prop 13 is bad but I consider 'No Child Left Behind' to be the 'nation's most f'd up piece of legislation'. We bought a home in Marin County 2 years ago (assesed value went from about 86K to 608K when property changed hands!). I agree with the comments above. Except that I think ‘No Child Left Behind’ throws a big nation-wide wrench into education where funding is tied to test scores. Our local school district is all about the test scores. My daughter is in Kindergarten and ‘hates homework’ already. And so I think that prop 13 is bad but I consider ‘No Child Left Behind’ to be the ‘nation’s most f’d up piece of legislation’.

]]> By: Robert Cassidy http://newestindustry.org/2005/03/28/dave-winer-on-silicon-valley-and-a-rant-on-california-education-funding/comment-page-1/#comment-645 Robert Cassidy Tue, 29 Mar 2005 05:06:41 +0000 http://crazycanuck.wordpress.com/2005/03/28/dave-winer-on-silicon-valley-and-a-rant-on-california-education-funding/#comment-645 <br/><br><br/><br>And higher-ed in the state is ok only because there's a lag between when the money goes away and when the public sees it. I work at a UC and things aren't good. Same problems - too much administration. The premier public institution of the state now gets less than 25% of it's funding from the state. It'd be more accurate to call the UC a private education contractor to the state. That's not helping the education improve, because money doesn't flow in for teaching. <br/><br><br/><br>My kids learn more at home than at school. That's fine in my book, but a little more help would be appreciated.<br/><br><br/><br>And Prop 13 has to be the nations most f'd up piece of legislation and should be the poster child against voter legislation. It's sufficiently well crafted that I can't imagine it ever being repealed, and the legislators and governor are powerless against it. <br/><br><br/><br>The tax bill on our $700K home is about what Warren pays on his $4M home because Warren probably paid $450K for it when he bought it, same as us. The result is that few people here can afford to buy their first home given a starting price of about $500K, so the renters get reamed while the homeowners rake it in. The homeowners keep ramping up property values because they aren't being bled out by taxes, so they can keep buying up and up, further segregating the market. We were fortunate to work our way on the money train when we did. And higher-ed in the state is ok only because there’s a lag between when the money goes away and when the public sees it. I work at a UC and things aren’t good. Same problems – too much administration. The premier public institution of the state now gets less than 25% of it’s funding from the state. It’d be more accurate to call the UC a private education contractor to the state. That’s not helping the education improve, because money doesn’t flow in for teaching.

My kids learn more at home than at school. That’s fine in my book, but a little more help would be appreciated.

And Prop 13 has to be the nations most f’d up piece of legislation and should be the poster child against voter legislation. It’s sufficiently well crafted that I can’t imagine it ever being repealed, and the legislators and governor are powerless against it.

The tax bill on our $700K home is about what Warren pays on his $4M home because Warren probably paid $450K for it when he bought it, same as us. The result is that few people here can afford to buy their first home given a starting price of about $500K, so the renters get reamed while the homeowners rake it in. The homeowners keep ramping up property values because they aren’t being bled out by taxes, so they can keep buying up and up, further segregating the market. We were fortunate to work our way on the money train when we did.

]]> By: Eddie Dickey http://newestindustry.org/2005/03/28/dave-winer-on-silicon-valley-and-a-rant-on-california-education-funding/comment-page-1/#comment-252 Eddie Dickey Tue, 29 Mar 2005 03:23:11 +0000 http://crazycanuck.wordpress.com/2005/03/28/dave-winer-on-silicon-valley-and-a-rant-on-california-education-funding/#comment-252 We bought a home in Marin County 2 years ago (assesed value went from about 86K to 608K when property changed hands!). I agree with the comments above. Except that I think 'No Child Left Behind' throws a big nation-wide wrench into education where funding is tied to test scores. Our local school district is all about the test scores. My daughter is in Kindergarten and 'hates homework' already. And so I think that prop 13 is bad but I consider 'No Child Left Behind' to be the 'nation's most f'd up piece of legislation'. We bought a home in Marin County 2 years ago (assesed value went from about 86K to 608K when property changed hands!). I agree with the comments above. Except that I think ‘No Child Left Behind’ throws a big nation-wide wrench into education where funding is tied to test scores. Our local school district is all about the test scores. My daughter is in Kindergarten and ‘hates homework’ already. And so I think that prop 13 is bad but I consider ‘No Child Left Behind’ to be the ‘nation’s most f’d up piece of legislation’.

]]> By: Robert Cassidy http://newestindustry.org/2005/03/28/dave-winer-on-silicon-valley-and-a-rant-on-california-education-funding/comment-page-1/#comment-251 Robert Cassidy Tue, 29 Mar 2005 00:06:41 +0000 http://crazycanuck.wordpress.com/2005/03/28/dave-winer-on-silicon-valley-and-a-rant-on-california-education-funding/#comment-251 Have to agree 100%. I live in SoCal, and the schools are a disaster. The funding isn't the issue, IMO, rather it's the size of the school bureaucracy that is needed to sustain everything from regional to state to federal education mandates. Our local K-12 school is 50% administration. Cut out the overhead and you could cut funding *and* get better education out of it.<br /> <br /> And higher-ed in the state is ok only because there's a lag between when the money goes away and when the public sees it. I work at a UC and things aren't good. Same problems - too much administration. The premier public institution of the state now gets less than 25% of it's funding from the state. It'd be more accurate to call the UC a private education contractor to the state. That's not helping the education improve, because money doesn't flow in for teaching. <br /> <br /> My kids learn more at home than at school. That's fine in my book, but a little more help would be appreciated.<br /> <br /> And Prop 13 has to be the nations most f'd up piece of legislation and should be the poster child against voter legislation. It's sufficiently well crafted that I can't imagine it ever being repealed, and the legislators and governor are powerless against it. <br /> <br /> The tax bill on our $700K home is about what Warren pays on his $4M home because Warren probably paid $450K for it when he bought it, same as us. The result is that few people here can afford to buy their first home given a starting price of about $500K, so the renters get reamed while the homeowners rake it in. The homeowners keep ramping up property values because they aren't being bled out by taxes, so they can keep buying up and up, further segregating the market. We were fortunate to work our way on the money train when we did. Have to agree 100%. I live in SoCal, and the schools are a disaster. The funding isn’t the issue, IMO, rather it’s the size of the school bureaucracy that is needed to sustain everything from regional to state to federal education mandates. Our local K-12 school is 50% administration. Cut out the overhead and you could cut funding *and* get better education out of it.

And higher-ed in the state is ok only because there’s a lag between when the money goes away and when the public sees it. I work at a UC and things aren’t good. Same problems – too much administration. The premier public institution of the state now gets less than 25% of it’s funding from the state. It’d be more accurate to call the UC a private education contractor to the state. That’s not helping the education improve, because money doesn’t flow in for teaching.

My kids learn more at home than at school. That’s fine in my book, but a little more help would be appreciated.

And Prop 13 has to be the nations most f’d up piece of legislation and should be the poster child against voter legislation. It’s sufficiently well crafted that I can’t imagine it ever being repealed, and the legislators and governor are powerless against it.

The tax bill on our $700K home is about what Warren pays on his $4M home because Warren probably paid $450K for it when he bought it, same as us. The result is that few people here can afford to buy their first home given a starting price of about $500K, so the renters get reamed while the homeowners rake it in. The homeowners keep ramping up property values because they aren’t being bled out by taxes, so they can keep buying up and up, further segregating the market. We were fortunate to work our way on the money train when we did.

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